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	<title>Comments on: Could Homeopathy Hurt Haiti?</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ericson</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-16893</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Ericson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Kiki, I wholly agree with your main point - that homeopathic treatments are NOT what Haiti needs right now, and I think the powers-that-be are inclined to agree, from what I've seen.

Your attack on homeothapy in general misses the point.  Medicine does many things very well, including and especially dealing with traumas and infectious diseases.  But there are significant weaknesses in the practice of medicine that complementary 'care' does much better than traditional western medicine:
1.  Medicine defines 'health' as a negative - the lack of disease or malady. Those of us fortunate enough to expect general good health (thanks largely to medicine) are realizing that a more comprehensive positive definition is useful - one that focuses on preventative care, longevity, wellness, etc.  Whether or not the treatments are always effective, alternative medicines address this need, whereas conventional medicine, with the possible exception of Viagra-type drugs, plays no role whatsoever.
2.  Medicine treats bodies, or minds, but lacks the sophistocation to treat 'people.'  Medicine is NOT science, it is the application of science, combined with personal experience, policy, and the pragmatics of business.  Involving people in their own care somehow doesn't fit into the clinical paradigm... you quote someone who says that the homeopath often doesn't know the patient's history - all the experience I have suggests the opposite - a 4 minute average interaction between a doctor and patient leads to mis-diagnoses and sub-optimal care in too many cases.
3 Trust.  Doctors have done a dismal job of maintaining the public trust.  From allowing pharmaceuticals to hijack care (at least in perception) to failing to acknowledge the potential benefits of alternative care, to a general arrogance that has kept proven best practices like check-lists from mass adoption, people, especially young people, don't trust the doctors, and this opens the door wide for anyone who can demonstrate a true interest in helping, and ideas (however faulty) for care.  

I love the show - keep up the great work of bringing interesting and diverse topics out to us, and for introducing us to interesting characters and role models for our children!

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Kiki, I wholly agree with your main point - that homeopathic treatments are NOT what Haiti needs right now, and I think the powers-that-be are inclined to agree, from what I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>Your attack on homeothapy in general misses the point.  Medicine does many things very well, including and especially dealing with traumas and infectious diseases.  But there are significant weaknesses in the practice of medicine that complementary &#8216;care&#8217; does much better than traditional western medicine:<br />
1.  Medicine defines &#8216;health&#8217; as a negative - the lack of disease or malady. Those of us fortunate enough to expect general good health (thanks largely to medicine) are realizing that a more comprehensive positive definition is useful - one that focuses on preventative care, longevity, wellness, etc.  Whether or not the treatments are always effective, alternative medicines address this need, whereas conventional medicine, with the possible exception of Viagra-type drugs, plays no role whatsoever.<br />
2.  Medicine treats bodies, or minds, but lacks the sophistocation to treat &#8216;people.&#8217;  Medicine is NOT science, it is the application of science, combined with personal experience, policy, and the pragmatics of business.  Involving people in their own care somehow doesn&#8217;t fit into the clinical paradigm&#8230; you quote someone who says that the homeopath often doesn&#8217;t know the patient&#8217;s history - all the experience I have suggests the opposite - a 4 minute average interaction between a doctor and patient leads to mis-diagnoses and sub-optimal care in too many cases.<br />
3 Trust.  Doctors have done a dismal job of maintaining the public trust.  From allowing pharmaceuticals to hijack care (at least in perception) to failing to acknowledge the potential benefits of alternative care, to a general arrogance that has kept proven best practices like check-lists from mass adoption, people, especially young people, don&#8217;t trust the doctors, and this opens the door wide for anyone who can demonstrate a true interest in helping, and ideas (however faulty) for care.  </p>
<p>I love the show - keep up the great work of bringing interesting and diverse topics out to us, and for introducing us to interesting characters and role models for our children!</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-16214</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-16214</guid>
		<description>Dear Dr. Kiki:

 

One question you forgot to ask on your removing the needle show...What causes autism? Perhaps vacinations or some other environmental factor cause mutations in men's sperm The points made below apply to you too.  How about a warped science show?

Love All Your Shows!!!

Rod Miller


Seth and Molly:
 
Below is my letter to Michael Specter.  I have the same comment for Dr. Kiki when she pushes the same theme.  The science denier theme seems easier for you do a show on then the corrupt or commercially skewed science that dominates theme.   Do you think the Pharmaceutical industry does science on what is the most healthful treatment when it points away from their drugs?  Do we need genetically engineered crops that allow greater use of herbicides when classes of plants and their dependents are exterminated from the local environments?
 
Try a skewed science show for a change. Oops almost forget to say You have best science show in the universe!!!
 
Thanks Rod Miller
 
Dear Michael Specter:
 
IMHO the flaw in your point of view is that you accept "science" as primarily a public good.  What is science: the wrong hypothesis, current supported theories, the undeveloped theories, or the selective commercial theories of business?  You say we should be skeptical of the science of the pharmaceutical interests/industry.   The lovers of organic are precisely that.  We are skeptical of commercial interests that have polluted the objectivity of not only science but also politics.  
 
Is cholesterol medication the best most healthful treatment for the target patients?  Likely in the vast majority of cases no, particularly if you drink alcohol.  The most healthful approach for these patients is likely dramatically changing diet.  Where is the science to test my public interest theory?  It is drowned by the weight of corporate interest.   Have you made a political contribution today?  Are you on any FDA review committees?
 
Michael for those of us that have a choice we often choose to not give our money to the corrupt world even if the active science is only the placebo effect.
 
Sincerely Obviously,
 
Rod Miller</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Kiki:</p>
<p>One question you forgot to ask on your removing the needle show&#8230;What causes autism? Perhaps vacinations or some other environmental factor cause mutations in men&#8217;s sperm The points made below apply to you too.  How about a warped science show?</p>
<p>Love All Your Shows!!!</p>
<p>Rod Miller</p>
<p>Seth and Molly:</p>
<p>Below is my letter to Michael Specter.  I have the same comment for Dr. Kiki when she pushes the same theme.  The science denier theme seems easier for you do a show on then the corrupt or commercially skewed science that dominates theme.   Do you think the Pharmaceutical industry does science on what is the most healthful treatment when it points away from their drugs?  Do we need genetically engineered crops that allow greater use of herbicides when classes of plants and their dependents are exterminated from the local environments?</p>
<p>Try a skewed science show for a change. Oops almost forget to say You have best science show in the universe!!!</p>
<p>Thanks Rod Miller</p>
<p>Dear Michael Specter:</p>
<p>IMHO the flaw in your point of view is that you accept &#8220;science&#8221; as primarily a public good.  What is science: the wrong hypothesis, current supported theories, the undeveloped theories, or the selective commercial theories of business?  You say we should be skeptical of the science of the pharmaceutical interests/industry.   The lovers of organic are precisely that.  We are skeptical of commercial interests that have polluted the objectivity of not only science but also politics.  </p>
<p>Is cholesterol medication the best most healthful treatment for the target patients?  Likely in the vast majority of cases no, particularly if you drink alcohol.  The most healthful approach for these patients is likely dramatically changing diet.  Where is the science to test my public interest theory?  It is drowned by the weight of corporate interest.   Have you made a political contribution today?  Are you on any FDA review committees?</p>
<p>Michael for those of us that have a choice we often choose to not give our money to the corrupt world even if the active science is only the placebo effect.</p>
<p>Sincerely Obviously,</p>
<p>Rod Miller</p>
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		<title>By: bush</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15855</link>
		<dc:creator>bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how James "Amazing" Randy rants about homeopathy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE1tH93G9U</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how James &#8220;Amazing&#8221; Randy rants about homeopathy: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE1tH93G9U" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE1tH93G9U</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15669</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually part of the mass-overdose protest in New Zealand, and while I think we made some sort of point, the media picked one telegenic homeopathy-user anecdote to counter us for 'balance". Also many of the comments on the TV story website were depressingly vitriolic and badly-infomed, but that's to be expected I guess. The homeopath interviewed admitted the lactose pills has no actual active ingredient; it was all all done through electromagnetism. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually part of the mass-overdose protest in New Zealand, and while I think we made some sort of point, the media picked one telegenic homeopathy-user anecdote to counter us for &#8216;balance&#8221;. Also many of the comments on the TV story website were depressingly vitriolic and badly-infomed, but that&#8217;s to be expected I guess. The homeopath interviewed admitted the lactose pills has no actual active ingredient; it was all all done through electromagnetism. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: David Emel</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15261</link>
		<dc:creator>David Emel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15261</guid>
		<description>Homeopathy is a responce to corrupt or inept medical practice. Due to it's unregulated nature is bound to swarm with profiteers and snake oils. @Mike, Inventing a new definition does not make or guarentee a safe practice. The popularity of Homeopathy is a direct responce to expensive or ineffective Medical practice. Am I the only person who sees the conflict or interest with MBA and MDA? Treatments are sooooo much more profitable than cures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeopathy is a responce to corrupt or inept medical practice. Due to it&#8217;s unregulated nature is bound to swarm with profiteers and snake oils. @Mike, Inventing a new definition does not make or guarentee a safe practice. The popularity of Homeopathy is a direct responce to expensive or ineffective Medical practice. Am I the only person who sees the conflict or interest with MBA and MDA? Treatments are sooooo much more profitable than cures.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15123</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Javier,
I just want to point out that Homeopathy has nothing to do with Religion.
I think you are thinking more along the lines of Naturopathy.

I think a lot of people have this confusion. Homeopathy is questionable. But Naturopathy can be just as effective as Pharmaceuticals; each have their own benefits and risks. (Pharmaceuticals are also patentable and therefore profitable while natural methods are not; and as you may or may not know, sadly this world revolves around money...for the moment anyways)

But again it's important to distinguish between Homeopathy and Naturopathy, they are two completely different things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Javier,<br />
I just want to point out that Homeopathy has nothing to do with Religion.<br />
I think you are thinking more along the lines of Naturopathy.</p>
<p>I think a lot of people have this confusion. Homeopathy is questionable. But Naturopathy can be just as effective as Pharmaceuticals; each have their own benefits and risks. (Pharmaceuticals are also patentable and therefore profitable while natural methods are not; and as you may or may not know, sadly this world revolves around money&#8230;for the moment anyways)</p>
<p>But again it&#8217;s important to distinguish between Homeopathy and Naturopathy, they are two completely different things.</p>
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		<title>By: DataJack</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15122</link>
		<dc:creator>DataJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Dr. Kirsten, as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Dr. Kirsten, as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Javier</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15100</link>
		<dc:creator>Javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough, I have just gotten back from my Latin American anthropology lecture about Haiti.  

I do agree that homeopathy is harmful and I wish it were not so prevalent, but there is a strong reason for its existence.  Homeopathy is deeply ingrained in some places because many times it is a part of the people's religion. In my experience, I was taught to accept and respect the beliefs of others.  It seems homeopathy has leaked into this range of acceptance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, I have just gotten back from my Latin American anthropology lecture about Haiti.  </p>
<p>I do agree that homeopathy is harmful and I wish it were not so prevalent, but there is a strong reason for its existence.  Homeopathy is deeply ingrained in some places because many times it is a part of the people&#8217;s religion. In my experience, I was taught to accept and respect the beliefs of others.  It seems homeopathy has leaked into this range of acceptance.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15099</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that homeopathy would hurt Haitians by default - if people need medicine then just not giving them medicine if you otherwise could would hurt them.

I suspect there's a pretty remarkably placebo response to any care given out by aid workers after a natural disaster but ethically lying to people just after they've had an earthquake has got to be off the scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that homeopathy would hurt Haitians by default - if people need medicine then just not giving them medicine if you otherwise could would hurt them.</p>
<p>I suspect there&#8217;s a pretty remarkably placebo response to any care given out by aid workers after a natural disaster but ethically lying to people just after they&#8217;ve had an earthquake has got to be off the scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason R</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2010/01/20/could-homeopathy-hurt-haiti/#comment-15097</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought this was an interesting case of direct protest against the homeopaths:

"Boots hit by mass homeopathy 'overdose' - Hundreds of people are planning to 'overdose' on homeopathic remedies outside Boots stores to protest against the chemist selling treatments which critics say are ineffective."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7028989/Boots-hit-by-mass-homeopathy-overdose.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought this was an interesting case of direct protest against the homeopaths:</p>
<p>&#8220;Boots hit by mass homeopathy &#8216;overdose&#8217; - Hundreds of people are planning to &#8216;overdose&#8217; on homeopathic remedies outside Boots stores to protest against the chemist selling treatments which critics say are ineffective.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7028989/Boots-hit-by-mass-homeopathy-overdose.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7028989/Boots-hit-by-mass-homeopathy-overdose.html</a></p>
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