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	<title>Comments on: Famous Scientists Wanted</title>
	<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/</link>
	<description>The world according to a hula hooping, TKD black-belt wearing, radio show producing physiologist with aspirations to science journalism</description>
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		<title>By: ariel</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-11157</link>
		<dc:creator>ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are u a famous sciecetist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are u a famous sciecetist</p>
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		<title>By: Konradius</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-10466</link>
		<dc:creator>Konradius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-10466</guid>
		<description>Am I really the first person to have to say Carolyn Porco, the leader of the imaging team of the Cassini mission?
http://www.ted.com/speakers/carolyn_porco.html
http://thesciencenetwork.org/programs/beyond-belief-science-religion-reason-and-survival
(session 3, skip the Joan Roughgarden part)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I really the first person to have to say Carolyn Porco, the leader of the imaging team of the Cassini mission?<br />
<a href="http://www.ted.com/speakers/carolyn_porco.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/speakers/carolyn_porco.html</a><br />
<a href="http://thesciencenetwork.org/programs/beyond-belief-science-religion-reason-and-survival" rel="nofollow">http://thesciencenetwork.org/programs/beyond-belief-science-religion-reason-and-survival</a><br />
(session 3, skip the Joan Roughgarden part)</p>
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		<title>By: Epicanis</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-9657</link>
		<dc:creator>Epicanis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-9657</guid>
		<description>This would help science in the public, but what would it do to science itself when the focus shifts from "doing science" to "competing for fame?"  

See also: Pons and Fleischman

That said, I think if you want the public treating scientists as celebrities, we're going to need some "thems" for our "us" scientists to compete against.  An "OUR scientist(s) is(are) defending our tribe from THEM.  GO, OUR SCIENTIST(s)!"

See also: NASA vs. the Soviet Space Program in the race to the moon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would help science in the public, but what would it do to science itself when the focus shifts from &#8220;doing science&#8221; to &#8220;competing for fame?&#8221;  </p>
<p>See also: Pons and Fleischman</p>
<p>That said, I think if you want the public treating scientists as celebrities, we&#8217;re going to need some &#8220;thems&#8221; for our &#8220;us&#8221; scientists to compete against.  An &#8220;OUR scientist(s) is(are) defending our tribe from THEM.  GO, OUR SCIENTIST(s)!&#8221;</p>
<p>See also: NASA vs. the Soviet Space Program in the race to the moon.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-9126</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-9126</guid>
		<description>Kirsten, I whole heartedly agree with you!!  Scientists need to be famous!!!!  I think part of the problem is that it takes so long for a research project or whatever is being worked on to be proven.  But, if there was a way to design a TV show similar to american idol, or so you think you can dance, or project runway, and the prize would be money and the ability to work on an amazing project or something like that, then we could get kids exposed to all the amazing things that scientists do and start getting them thinking about different possibilities.  You have such a wonderful personality and inquisitiveness that I think you would be a wonderful host - not to mention you are gorgeous, so rock on woman!  You are totally my science rock star right now ;)  I couldn't say that I was interested in bird brains until I started listening to TWIS.

On the note of women in science.  I heard the TWIS podcast where you talked about the study that improving general self confidence in females would be the leading factor in women becoming more interested in science and math, and I completely agree with that.  I have an EE degree from UC Davis (go aggies!) and I would count how many females were in my classes.  It turns out that it was a 90/10 split of males and females.  There were only 2 caucasian females in my entire graduating class.  When I look back at my friends in school, I think self confidence was definitely a strong factor in interest in math and science.  I had a feeling that I could do anything that I put my mind too (and I still do), and most of my female friends didn't share that.  They felt that they needed help, which ultimately limited their creation of their own success in math and science areas.

One other interesting note, was that it didn't bother me that I was one of few females in my class until I took intro to genetics as an elective.  It was 10/90 male/female.  The first day of the class the instructor was waving his hands around and saying, "don't worry, there won't be any fractions or anything like that".  I was very offended!  But I think most of the class was relieved... so yes, women, you can do math if only you believe in yourself!  Don't buy into the social stereotypes anymore!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirsten, I whole heartedly agree with you!!  Scientists need to be famous!!!!  I think part of the problem is that it takes so long for a research project or whatever is being worked on to be proven.  But, if there was a way to design a TV show similar to american idol, or so you think you can dance, or project runway, and the prize would be money and the ability to work on an amazing project or something like that, then we could get kids exposed to all the amazing things that scientists do and start getting them thinking about different possibilities.  You have such a wonderful personality and inquisitiveness that I think you would be a wonderful host - not to mention you are gorgeous, so rock on woman!  You are totally my science rock star right now <img src='http://www.kirstensanford.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I couldn&#8217;t say that I was interested in bird brains until I started listening to TWIS.</p>
<p>On the note of women in science.  I heard the TWIS podcast where you talked about the study that improving general self confidence in females would be the leading factor in women becoming more interested in science and math, and I completely agree with that.  I have an EE degree from UC Davis (go aggies!) and I would count how many females were in my classes.  It turns out that it was a 90/10 split of males and females.  There were only 2 caucasian females in my entire graduating class.  When I look back at my friends in school, I think self confidence was definitely a strong factor in interest in math and science.  I had a feeling that I could do anything that I put my mind too (and I still do), and most of my female friends didn&#8217;t share that.  They felt that they needed help, which ultimately limited their creation of their own success in math and science areas.</p>
<p>One other interesting note, was that it didn&#8217;t bother me that I was one of few females in my class until I took intro to genetics as an elective.  It was 10/90 male/female.  The first day of the class the instructor was waving his hands around and saying, &#8220;don&#8217;t worry, there won&#8217;t be any fractions or anything like that&#8221;.  I was very offended!  But I think most of the class was relieved&#8230; so yes, women, you can do math if only you believe in yourself!  Don&#8217;t buy into the social stereotypes anymore!!</p>
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		<title>By: PhilB</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-9083</link>
		<dc:creator>PhilB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-9083</guid>
		<description>Worth noting,  the MythBusters in general and Kari Byron for women, have quickly become stars and icons in their own right.  So we're definitely seeing signs of potential both generally and for women.

In the meantime I'll join in nominating Dr. Kiki.  If The Skeptologists doesn't take off (FSM forbid), she really deserves at least an hour show of her own.  A scientist version of "Dirty Jobs" perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth noting,  the MythBusters in general and Kari Byron for women, have quickly become stars and icons in their own right.  So we&#8217;re definitely seeing signs of potential both generally and for women.</p>
<p>In the meantime I&#8217;ll join in nominating Dr. Kiki.  If The Skeptologists doesn&#8217;t take off (FSM forbid), she really deserves at least an hour show of her own.  A scientist version of &#8220;Dirty Jobs&#8221; perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: steve reeder</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-8850</link>
		<dc:creator>steve reeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-8850</guid>
		<description>Random thoughts...
Kirsten, I nominate you!!! I think you do a great job helping educate the public. We need to get you on PBS or something!

Maybe the whole way we do education in the USA is making science unpopular, Everyone I know with a Phd (or a Bachelor's for that matter) is sooooo bogged down in student loans and debt, that the smartest people end up being the poorest. Until there is better access to higher education I think it's going to be an uphill battle. One of my professors finally paid off his student loans when he was 45! What kid is going to want to emulate that?

That said, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, also does a fantastic job popularizing science. He's very articulate and very funny.
Brian Cox comes to mind, I mean he looks like a rockstar, and he actually was a rockstar for a while. He could be a great candidate for a science popularizer.

There must be many women scientists, something like half of all PhDs in Math and science are women.  But to find someone that is brainy and has some kind of star power might be tough.
What we would need is someone like Hedy Lamarr, someone as brilliant as they are beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thoughts&#8230;<br />
Kirsten, I nominate you!!! I think you do a great job helping educate the public. We need to get you on PBS or something!</p>
<p>Maybe the whole way we do education in the USA is making science unpopular, Everyone I know with a Phd (or a Bachelor&#8217;s for that matter) is sooooo bogged down in student loans and debt, that the smartest people end up being the poorest. Until there is better access to higher education I think it&#8217;s going to be an uphill battle. One of my professors finally paid off his student loans when he was 45! What kid is going to want to emulate that?</p>
<p>That said, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, also does a fantastic job popularizing science. He&#8217;s very articulate and very funny.<br />
Brian Cox comes to mind, I mean he looks like a rockstar, and he actually was a rockstar for a while. He could be a great candidate for a science popularizer.</p>
<p>There must be many women scientists, something like half of all PhDs in Math and science are women.  But to find someone that is brainy and has some kind of star power might be tough.<br />
What we would need is someone like Hedy Lamarr, someone as brilliant as they are beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-8716</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-8716</guid>
		<description>I think there is something even more insidious. There is definitely a strong anti-intellectualism force in general in our society and this filters in the popular media. Think of how intelligent characters are portrayed in popular culture. Usually a mix of some or all of these ingredients: socially inept, goofy, living in an ivory tower, arrogant, out to bamboozle the average Joe... Even when the character is made likable, it is not someone the average kid would want to emulate... I think science and math are worst hit by this stereotype, but serious writers, artists, philosopers, etc. all get hit by it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is something even more insidious. There is definitely a strong anti-intellectualism force in general in our society and this filters in the popular media. Think of how intelligent characters are portrayed in popular culture. Usually a mix of some or all of these ingredients: socially inept, goofy, living in an ivory tower, arrogant, out to bamboozle the average Joe&#8230; Even when the character is made likable, it is not someone the average kid would want to emulate&#8230; I think science and math are worst hit by this stereotype, but serious writers, artists, philosopers, etc. all get hit by it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: preternat</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-8486</link>
		<dc:creator>preternat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-8486</guid>
		<description>My perspective is that we're overly enamored with rock stars and other celebrities to start with. This takes attention *away* from other, more interesting people. In any case, yes, the media makes irresponsible choices, and the masses buy it.

Thanks to the internet I don't have to rely on the media/masses filter any more. And thanks to people like you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My perspective is that we&#8217;re overly enamored with rock stars and other celebrities to start with. This takes attention *away* from other, more interesting people. In any case, yes, the media makes irresponsible choices, and the masses buy it.</p>
<p>Thanks to the internet I don&#8217;t have to rely on the media/masses filter any more. And thanks to people like you!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Cyopick</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-8468</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Cyopick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in canada, I'd say David Suzuki is the most "famous" scientist, as he has a tv show "The Naute of Things".

Famous female scientists? Jane Goodall, Rosalind Franklin and Rachel Zimmerman come to mind, but they're definately not household names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in canada, I&#8217;d say David Suzuki is the most &#8220;famous&#8221; scientist, as he has a tv show &#8220;The Naute of Things&#8221;.</p>
<p>Famous female scientists? Jane Goodall, Rosalind Franklin and Rachel Zimmerman come to mind, but they&#8217;re definately not household names.</p>
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		<title>By: alloycowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.kirstensanford.com/2009/06/22/famous-scientists-wanted/#comment-8439</link>
		<dc:creator>alloycowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rock Stars are famous because they generate easy money. As part of generating easy money the media creates the image of a Rock Star and markets the hell out of it. Just look at Hannah Montana. If you want to get rich and famous as a scientist you are going to have to create a freak show full of bizarre science phenomena. If you could entertain an audience of 3000 for 90 minutes with science tricks and charged them 20 bucks a head that would generate $60,000 in revenue minus expenses. Do you see where I am going with this? 

Just look at all the classic experiments scientists have performed I am sure you can fill 90 minutes easily.  Just have a mad scientist brain storming party and see what you can up with!

PS: While were cloaning Dr. Kiki can we also cloan Jeri Ryan? Oh wait cloning is unethical! http://www.ncbcenter.org/FrTad_MSOOB_28.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock Stars are famous because they generate easy money. As part of generating easy money the media creates the image of a Rock Star and markets the hell out of it. Just look at Hannah Montana. If you want to get rich and famous as a scientist you are going to have to create a freak show full of bizarre science phenomena. If you could entertain an audience of 3000 for 90 minutes with science tricks and charged them 20 bucks a head that would generate $60,000 in revenue minus expenses. Do you see where I am going with this? </p>
<p>Just look at all the classic experiments scientists have performed I am sure you can fill 90 minutes easily.  Just have a mad scientist brain storming party and see what you can up with!</p>
<p>PS: While were cloaning Dr. Kiki can we also cloan Jeri Ryan? Oh wait cloning is unethical! <a href="http://www.ncbcenter.org/FrTad_MSOOB_28.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbcenter.org/FrTad_MSOOB_28.asp</a></p>
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